Is Ant Group worth investing in? | Chinese fintech and payments giant Ant Group is going to IPO in October. It aims to raise up to US$35 billion in Hong Kong and …
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Should You Invest In Ant Group's Upcoming IPO?
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Ant Group is a loan shark business disguised as FinTech running on the back of Alipay offering small loans at high interest rate with no questions asked to people with no collaterals to access credit cards & bank loans. This is known as the PayDay loan scheme, which has seen many failed examples in the rest of the world. Ant distributes the high risks to regular banks by receiving investments with return of medium interest. Ant is the middle man who pockets the difference between the 2 rates. The Beijing regime does not want the state-owned banks to go burst should the Ant Group bubble burst in the same fashion of the 2008 US subprime mortgage collapse bringing down major US banks and banks in other parts of the world . You guys are telling others to ignore that high risk and jump head first into Ang IPO? Is this sensible?
how do people even get their hands on an IPO even before its listed on exchange?what brokerage or platform allow to do that?
living and trading china A shares for pass 20years, ,sell off in a week or u will cry
thank you
from germany
Sorry thats a 200 billion dollar valuation.
So Ant Group is looking at a 2 billion dollar valuation. Which means it will trade at about 18 times last years gross profit. That's better than Alibaba or Tencent. I should buy if I can get it close to the IPO price.
Thank you very much for doing this round table discussion. You guys are D BEST!!
Good round table talk.
Thank you very much from Thailand.
This was the BEST investment roundtable that I have heard in a while. The number one reason, is that I did not feel like they were trying to sell me anything. It was just a frank, honest opinion that also looked at the actual NUMBERS, and not just the surface story. There was one question about RISKS that nobody mentioned…..The U.S. Election. Donald Trump has more of an isolationist combative attitude toward China on trade. Is that a factor in the overall growth of Ant Group…..or does it not really matter? Is it better for Ant if one candidate….Biden vs. Trump wins…..or does it have no effect whatsoever? Thanks!!
investment into a communist totalitarian state is a stupid move ! the state or communist govt collecting of users data and buying habits are that no individual privacy !!! Those brought ipo of this ant sure be regretted later on.
That was a nice discussion on ant for me who heard so much of the IPO but don’t know what the company is all about.
Useful even though cannot subscribe to IPO. Its a perspective on whether to buy/hold/sell/rebalance Alibaba. 30% ownership is significant.
When will ant group ipo date release or good public?
Thank you guys for the analysis. Keep these videos coming; they are super insightful and well thought out.
Random question, how do you think the 80M merchants are derived? VISA only has like 46M+
Well done. Love the discussion so well. Thank you guys.
If investors can bid up Tesla to 1000x pe then ANT becomes tempting @ PE 30x to 40x
The risk of Royalty, Management & Technical Fee to parent Alibaba is very real though – besides regulatory risk in the financial sector
assuming 40% earnings cagr and 40x PE the fair value wold be $ 204 Bil
peX –> 30 35 40 45 50
$ 2.6 Bil base year earnings
then valuation in $ Bil per the table
earn cagr %
20% 112 131 150 168 187
25% 122 142 163 183 203
30% 132 154 176 198 220
40% 153 178 204 229 255
May I know if buying into baba 9988.hk is a good alternative to benefit from this IPO??
From Singapore, do we have access to subscribe to IPO's in HK?
Thanks for the analysis! Will you be covering this in AlphaLab?
Thank you for your well balanced analysis on the risks and upside on Ant. Much appreciated!
Thank you for the analysis!
great video! appreciate if you guys can do a video on sg's semicon industry too!